One of the things that I find intriguing as a parent and a child is how to teach and learn to choose freely and wisely while being limited by what we know and don't know.
The reality of being a human being is that we are limited, our choices are restricted and bounded by our merely being human. How do we be free in the center of our limitations?(I hope this makes sense)
God learns to operate within this limitation, God chooses to learn in this way the experience seems to be something God enjoys and thrives on. God loves to learn, grow and develop.
God loves the dance...
How fun is it to experience something new, something better, something bigger, deeper? God hurts when a vessel that was created to do and be more does not or can not learn, expand, grow, achieve, evolve. This is the problem that God constantly creates solutions for. Lifetime after lifetime, age after age, choice after choice.
freedom within limitations, the opportunity for God to experience more, God became human
I love being human and not knowing, if what I know, is what is known. It is both liberating and limiting.
Hi Julie
Is Conscious Evolution the same as Evolution of Consciousness
Discussion started by Miriam Knight , on 29 May 12:24 AM
Barbara Marx Hubbard suggests that we can evolve as a species by using technologies like space exploration and the Internet to refocus our energies away from competition and war and towards cooperation and growth.
So is the evolution of consciousness the cause or the effect of conscious evolution?
So is the evolution of consciousness the cause or the effect of conscious evolution?
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As a parent, don't we all want our children to be greater and better than us? Why should it be different for our cosmic parent. Conscious evolution doesn't negate what came before. It emerges and learns from it and builds upon the accumulation of experience. This, in my view, is the universe's (God's) means of growth and expansion. All creation, from stars and planets to humans and amoeba, is part of this cosmic dance. Collectively we are the eyes, ears, heart and hands of God. Even our mistakes are part of the plan, for how else would we learn what not to choose next time.
531 days ago
Welcome HamanCrossill,
I appreciate your considered thoughts --and questions--on these abstractions. You demonstrate one of the most significant aspects of conscious evolution at the personal level, which is the willingness to continually render our observations and understandings as obsolete--so that we may participate with the ongoing larger evolutionary forces that surround us. By nature, evolution-- both personal and cosmic --is an open-ended process of learning/ adapting/ responding, so inevitably there is always something more to embrace, understand and become.
Cheers
julie
I appreciate your considered thoughts --and questions--on these abstractions. You demonstrate one of the most significant aspects of conscious evolution at the personal level, which is the willingness to continually render our observations and understandings as obsolete--so that we may participate with the ongoing larger evolutionary forces that surround us. By nature, evolution-- both personal and cosmic --is an open-ended process of learning/ adapting/ responding, so inevitably there is always something more to embrace, understand and become.
Cheers
julie
531 days ago
Hello everyone,
Forgive me I AM new, I don't get to talk about this type of stuff in my current environment but now the U n I verse has pro vided this out let for me to plug in and shape, sharpen and share my thoughts, interests and development.
Does transformation ever stop? Is there an end to transformation? Is there a limit? Does God expand? If evolution is something that characterizes God and communicates a method of growth and development than for what purpose? Why create? Why develop if not to grow and become more than what was, what is and what will be?
I wonder if Oneness is the beginning of evolution and once that is embraced, accepted and mastered than another kind of consciousness emerges and then that consciousness will have to evolve.(new level new devil) Does that mean that it is a "both, and" type of thing (Quantum thinking?!?)
I feel like a 39 year old kid at the grown-ups table. (with child like faith in the process we are in volved)
Also competition has purpose, war has purpose, just as much as cooperation and growth, we must balance our energy concerning these things. There is a type of war we must wage there is a type of competiton that is healthy and necessary. Has war and competition evolved?(that may be a dumb question)
Forgive me I AM new, I don't get to talk about this type of stuff in my current environment but now the U n I verse has pro vided this out let for me to plug in and shape, sharpen and share my thoughts, interests and development.
Does transformation ever stop? Is there an end to transformation? Is there a limit? Does God expand? If evolution is something that characterizes God and communicates a method of growth and development than for what purpose? Why create? Why develop if not to grow and become more than what was, what is and what will be?
I wonder if Oneness is the beginning of evolution and once that is embraced, accepted and mastered than another kind of consciousness emerges and then that consciousness will have to evolve.(new level new devil) Does that mean that it is a "both, and" type of thing (Quantum thinking?!?)
I feel like a 39 year old kid at the grown-ups table. (with child like faith in the process we are in volved)
Also competition has purpose, war has purpose, just as much as cooperation and growth, we must balance our energy concerning these things. There is a type of war we must wage there is a type of competiton that is healthy and necessary. Has war and competition evolved?(that may be a dumb question)
531 days ago
Hi, Miriam,
Here are some additional thoughts about your question.
1. The question, as phrased, has no right answer. The answer depends on the perspective of the person answering. One answer is no more right than another, although one answer may be more useful than another for particular purposes. For example, if we want harmony in our lives, we don't fight.
2. To ask and/or try to answer the question automatically creates separation between us and the experience of the energetic Flow we call "Consciousness" or "Awareness" or "God" or "The Tao" or "Brahma".
3. I agree with Lee and Steven. Consciousness is and always has been. All we need do, as humans, is "turn on the switch", tune into the right channel", "open our eyes and see", "open our ears and hear." The consciousness shift can happen quite suddenly once we are open to receiving a new way of thinking, feeling and being. This consciousness shift is what has been called "transformation", "salvation", "transcendence", "overcoming", "samadhi", "grace", "awareness", "piercing the veil of illusion."
4. The only sense in which we evolve as a species is that more and more of us tune in to what has always been there. Eternity is right here, right now. All we need do is open our eyes.
5. The question, as phrased, assumes that reductive thinking, rather than systems thinking, is the correct thought process. We have all been so conditioned to analytic, objective, separative thinking and the belief that we can know objective reality. What if we can't? What if everything is simply perspective, and what I perceive as "I" is simply a part of a dynamic, creative flow? What if all we can do is co-create using our limited, human tools as well as we know how?
6. The question, as phrased, also assumes there really is such a thing as time: past, present, future. Are these concepts not simply just that? Concepts we humans have created?
Here are some additional thoughts about your question.
1. The question, as phrased, has no right answer. The answer depends on the perspective of the person answering. One answer is no more right than another, although one answer may be more useful than another for particular purposes. For example, if we want harmony in our lives, we don't fight.
2. To ask and/or try to answer the question automatically creates separation between us and the experience of the energetic Flow we call "Consciousness" or "Awareness" or "God" or "The Tao" or "Brahma".
3. I agree with Lee and Steven. Consciousness is and always has been. All we need do, as humans, is "turn on the switch", tune into the right channel", "open our eyes and see", "open our ears and hear." The consciousness shift can happen quite suddenly once we are open to receiving a new way of thinking, feeling and being. This consciousness shift is what has been called "transformation", "salvation", "transcendence", "overcoming", "samadhi", "grace", "awareness", "piercing the veil of illusion."
4. The only sense in which we evolve as a species is that more and more of us tune in to what has always been there. Eternity is right here, right now. All we need do is open our eyes.
5. The question, as phrased, assumes that reductive thinking, rather than systems thinking, is the correct thought process. We have all been so conditioned to analytic, objective, separative thinking and the belief that we can know objective reality. What if we can't? What if everything is simply perspective, and what I perceive as "I" is simply a part of a dynamic, creative flow? What if all we can do is co-create using our limited, human tools as well as we know how?
6. The question, as phrased, also assumes there really is such a thing as time: past, present, future. Are these concepts not simply just that? Concepts we humans have created?
838 days ago
Beautifully put, but I might suggest a distinction between Consciousness with a capital C , meaning that which we share with the universal mind, and (lower case) consciousness, in the sense of directed awareness. Some are suggesting that the evolution of our Consciousness (capital C) as a species will usher in an era of empathy or even telepathy.
839 days ago
Currently, many teachers claim consciousness is evolving. They believe we're entering a new age of understanding when humans will operate at the highest level of consciousness and spiritual understanding ever experienced. While we feel certain these teachers have only the best intentions in mind, they've forgotten what so many spiritual masters have demonstrated: we've always known everything we need to know because everything in existence shares the One Mind of Ultimate Reality. Our ignorance of the One Mind that permeates the universe can't negate its existence. Quantum physicists tell us that even subatomic light particles (photons) share this consciousness. From that perspective, consciousness is like a light switch that's either off or on; the light is there or it isn't. But intelligence and awareness are more like a rheostat that can become brighter or dimmer. A rock, star, plant or animal each have different levels of intelligence and awareness, but according to quantum research, they are still fully conscious. To say that consciousness is evolving would be the same as saying the Mind of God needs to evolve. Since consciousness permeates everything in existence and cannot exist at different levels, we can only conclude that it's our awareness of, and connection with, consciousness that evolves, not consciousness itself.
839 days ago
To answer the question in your topic heading, I would understand "Evolution of Consciousness" as an individual process, whereas I would understand "Conscious Evolution" as a group dynamic resulting from the interaction of individuals who are evolving consciously.
If understood this way, the evolution of consciousness would be the cause of conscious evolution. But then, who is to say that this is the only way of understanding?
If understood this way, the evolution of consciousness would be the cause of conscious evolution. But then, who is to say that this is the only way of understanding?
1052 days ago
